From Steal to Secession AM – Ep. 51: America’s Options: National Divorce or Civil War?

Professor Wall and former North Dakota state legislator Rick Becker discuss America’s current situation and the choices facing the peoples who make up this vast country.

From Steal To Secession AM

Episode 51 – America’s Options: National Divorce or Civil War?


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In a crossover episode with the new podcast “War, Divorce or Federalism”, Professor Wall engages in a lively discussion with former North Dakota state legislator Rick Becker on America’s current situation and the choices facing the peoples who make up this vast country. Can federalism be re-asserted through a process like the Article V Convention so as to diffuse tensions and so prevent the onset of a possible civil war? Or have things deteriorated so badly that only national divorce can bring back peace?


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Guest’s Podcast / Links:

War, Divorce or Federalism Podcast (Youtube)

War, Divorce or Federalism Podcast (Twitter)

Dr. Rick Becker (Twitter)

Individuals Mentioned or Referenced

Martin Armstrong

Books Mentioned or Referenced

Dr. Philip Zimbardo: The Lucifer Effect – Understanding How Good People Turn Evil

Prof. Michael Huemer: The Problem of Political Authority

Prof. F.H. Buckley: American Secession – The Looming Threat of a National Breakup

Ryan McMaken: Breaking Away – The Case for Secession, Radical Decentralization, and Smaller Polities

Donald Livingston (Editor): Rethinking the American Union for the Twenty-First Century

Jason Fry: National Divorce – A Plan for Peace

Dr. Matt Qvortrup: I Want to Break Free – A Practical Guide to Making a New Country

The Complete Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers

Robert Higgs: Crisis and Leviathan

William J. Watkins Jr: Crossroads for Liberty – Recovering the Anti-Federalist Values of America’s First Constitution

Podcasts/Videos Mentioned or Referenced

From Steal to Secession AM Episode #50: The Reality of Self-Determination and Independence in the World

From Steal to Secession AM Episode #32: Why is Secession both Inevitable and Good?

From Steal to Secession AM Episode #45: Is Trump setting the stage for the dissolution of the Empire?

From Steal to Secession AM Episode #30: Crafting the Argument for National Divorce

Judging Freedom with Judge Andrew Napolitano: Lt Col. Karen Kwiatkowski : Resist; Do Not Comply!

Daniel Miller: Has Texas v White (1869) ALREADY been overturned? (The Rural Sense Show)

Articles Mentioned or Referenced

America’s Choice: National Divorce or Civil War – By Professor Wall

Slouching Toward Authoritarianism? – By Judge Andrew P. Napolitano

Organizations Mentioned

The Texas Nationalist Movement

NHEXIT Now!

Calexit Now

Greater Idaho

Illinois Separation Referendum


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